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Did anybody watch the Real World last night?

That girl Robin really needs to stop drinking. She's just a regular, normal, slightly-irritating girl during the day, but when she drinks she turns violent and downright mean. I realize that things are being edited to produce certain "characters", but still man -- I truly hope that after watching herself this whole season, she quits drinking. Or at least quits getting drunk.

She is ALWAYS doing stuff that she regrets the next morning, and has to take back. My God, some of the things she was saying last night to Cameron -- I don't care for Cameron so much, but jeez, she's just young, and the stuff that Robin was saying was so. Mean. It was heartbreaking to listen to. That whole house (except for Jacquiese, or however he spells it, he's my favorite) drinks way too much. They are constantly using that as an excuse for their ridiculous, assholic behavior.

I'm lucky. I'm not a mean drunk, or a violent drunk. I'm just a sleepy drunk. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

The Real World used to be about putting seven people together who were TOTALLY different and watching them fight. Oh and also about kicking one roommate out in the first month.

Ever since Hawaii (not that I've watched every season, but I'm guessing), it's been about putting a bunch of partiers together, and watching them get drunk and have sex with each other. Where are the virgins? Where are the Christians? For God's sake, man, where are the gays??


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May. 5th, 2004 09:16 am (UTC)
You ARE a mean drunk. It's just that we all love you so much, we don't hold it against you.
May. 5th, 2004 09:21 am (UTC)
I am? Really? I'm also a forgetful drunk.
May. 5th, 2004 09:28 am (UTC)
I guess you forgot you like, punched me while drunk on Saturday night then. :(
May. 5th, 2004 09:38 am (UTC)
I thought you were asleep!

Man, when Jenny was up and around at 8 I half-woke up and was still hungover/drunk, and I did have a lot to drink, so I must have been drunk -- but I never got to that fun/loud/can't-walk-straight phase. I don't know why that didn't happen.
May. 5th, 2004 09:54 am (UTC)
When PJ & I had to wake up to run to the wedding on Friday, I WAS still drunk. That was pretty rad.
May. 5th, 2004 11:30 am (UTC)
Well, you're mean to me, anywez...
May. 5th, 2004 11:43 am (UTC)
What? I thought I made out with you! You need to get your stories straight there, Morris, cuz making out with someone is the nicest thing I could do for a person.
May. 5th, 2004 12:36 pm (UTC)
You are a grand person, you contain multitudes. I believe you could be mean to someone and then end up making out with them later on.

It's better than being predictable, right?
May. 5th, 2004 01:04 pm (UTC)
Stop hitting on me!
May. 5th, 2004 01:27 pm (UTC)
I thought she was a nice drunk!

She's a pretty mean sober though.
May. 5th, 2004 01:32 pm (UTC)
Ha ha ha ha, YES! See, this guy right here, he knows what he's talking about.
May. 5th, 2004 09:28 am (UTC)
I am a silly/mushy/flirty drunk. And sometimes, unfortunately, a jealous drunk (I am not proud of this, but at least I will admit it).

Do you remember Julie from the first season in New York? I used to work with her during my freshman year of college. This was way after she was on the Real World, and she would just freak the fuck out when anyone would ask her about it. You should kind of expect it, really, when you move back to your home town.
May. 5th, 2004 09:33 am (UTC)
Of course I remember Julie! I almost titled this entry "o Julie, how I miss ye." She was the nineteen-year-old Southern Christian virgin dancer. Do you mean to tell me she didn't stick with the dancing?

I went to the same school as Ruthie from Hawaii, and the gay dude from Boston (I didn't watch that one). (I *think* it was Boston). king_kai hung out with Ruthie a few times our freshman year. I wonder if by now, everyone in the country knows someone who knows someone who was on the Real World?
May. 5th, 2004 09:42 am (UTC)
I think she teaches dance lessons to little girls or something. And she has a few kids now, too. Weird.

Also, just for the record, I'd like to state that very few people around here (myself included!) have such a thick southern accent. I think she milked that for the cameras.
May. 6th, 2004 07:40 am (UTC)
(I *think* it was Boston)

i believe it was miami. boston was the last one i watched, so i'm pretty sure it wasn't that one. boston was actually the first time the house was mostly filled with heavy drinkers...and also a virgin lesbian, if i recall correctly. and they worked in a day care center.

also, wacky hijinks ensued on occasion, in case you were wondering.

ALSO, remember that dude glen who replaced david in los angeles? i saw his band (something to do with a fish or something? i don't remember), opening for someone at the troc. they sucked balls.

also, a friend of mine claimed to have met andre from new york at some party. she said he had terrible B.O.

those are all of my real world stories. i am going to go hang myself now...
May. 5th, 2004 09:33 am (UTC)
Man, you are right! I never really watched the real world, but I remember that everyone was different, and now from what I can see they really ARE the same!

I guess watching good looking people have sex never gets old.
May. 5th, 2004 09:37 am (UTC)
Oh, it does, because 1) they're all "goodlooking" by cheerleader/frat boy standards and 2) they're all dumb as a post.

I never have the urge to start watching a new season of the Real World, but if I accidentally see two episodes, I'm hooked. I don't know what it is.

And marathons, man, marathons are KILLER. Ugh, there goes my Saturday. Back me up here, ladies.
May. 5th, 2004 01:06 pm (UTC)


May. 6th, 2004 06:16 am (UTC)
Too true!
May. 5th, 2004 10:03 am (UTC)
i'm a talkative drunk. i just wanna talk talk talk talk. this is NOT very different from regular meg, or I suppose Reg Meg, but just...well, i like to talk.
May. 5th, 2004 10:25 am (UTC)
I don't think I know any women who are NOT talkative when drunk.

King Kai's idea for a reality game show:

Three sober male contestants are locked into rooms, each with a woman and 10 liters of white wine. The women drink as much as they want, the men must stay completely sober, and may not touch, hit on, or even flirt with the women. Contestants are eliminated if they:
1. Fall asleep.
2. Start screaming "Shut up shut up shut up" out loud. 3. Hit the woman.
4. Gag the woman.
Winner is the last contestant left. It would probably require a full hour timeslot to play this game out in real time, but you could probably condense it into a half-hour if you pick the right women.
May. 5th, 2004 10:28 am (UTC)
wow. that's a very interested and limited way to view women.

also, i would be awesome at that show, mostly because I don't drink white wine.
May. 5th, 2004 08:15 pm (UTC)
Sorry, should have probably saved that for my journal instead of making it a comment here.
May. 5th, 2004 10:12 am (UTC)
i have been told that i am a source of great humor when i am drunk. not because i dance on tables or wear lampshades on my head, but because i knock down all the dams up there and say EXACTLY what i'm thinking without hesitation.

oh, and far as the gay quotient on The Real World . . . my boyfriend and i are currently trying to figure out what the deal is with the Philly Real World cast and if one of them is of the homosexual persuasion. you can bet that i will post that shit in a hurry when i find out!
May. 5th, 2004 11:47 am (UTC)
Yeah, there used to be a Token Gay Person (or bi, but then they tended to have a preference for same-sex partners), who would offend and confuse the Token Conservative Christian and the Token Angry Black Man, who had never met a gay person before, Token or otherwise.

Somewhere along the line they must have decided that that would be one less potential sex partner for the other roommates.

Hey, wanna hear my theory about how there should be a lot more bisexual characters in soap operas? Here it is: there totally should be! Can you IMAGINE the love polygons??
May. 5th, 2004 10:20 am (UTC)
Jacquese IS the coolest one.
Man, yes. But what about Frankie? She just gets drunk repeatedly and makes lame i-can't-be-held-accountable-for-my-actions-but-i-don't-remember-whether-or-not-i-cheated-on-Dave confessionals. Thats the girl that pisses me off the most.

Cutters, man.
May. 5th, 2004 11:48 am (UTC)
Re: Jacquese IS the coolest one.
Yeah, I *want* to like Frankie, because I like her hair and her makeup, and she's not all . . . cheerleadery and "regular", like the other characters. But man, she makes terrible decisions when she's drunk. And her behavior last night was apalling.
May. 5th, 2004 01:11 pm (UTC)
Re: Jacquese IS the coolest one.
I don't get why she says she has cystic fibrosis, but she smokes! WTF?

People with cystic fibrosis, hardly make it into their 20's... and if they do- they are REALLY sick... and they definitely don't smoke... so she better cut the crap. She's full if it.
May. 5th, 2004 03:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Jacquese IS the coolest one.
Ya know I was going to comment with the same thing. People who have CF and make it to her age are usually in horrid condition. To even think about adding smoking to that equation is disgusting.

The thing is...she looks like she has CF. The whole raised chest-ultra skinny thing...so I started thinking about what I would do if I was her. I'm a total smoker...and honestly if I knew I was gonna die early anyway...I might just say fuck it, I should enjoy myself while I can.

But still...she sucks. The "scared of big ships" thing did it for me.
May. 5th, 2004 05:13 pm (UTC)
Re: Jacquese IS the coolest one.
ohhhh yeah... the tall ships thing! That was idioctic. How does one acquire a fear like that anyway?
May. 6th, 2004 09:26 am (UTC)
Re: Jacquese IS the coolest one.
I don't think she was truly frightened of the ships...I think she is an attention whore.

May. 5th, 2004 10:48 am (UTC)
yes! I watched 3 Real World episodes last night, which was awesome, since I needed to catch up. They're all such STUPID drunks. Robin and Frat Boy are my least favorite drunks because they get loud and mean. And really, really fucking dumb. I've done some dumb things when I've been drunk, but after doing them I DON'T do them again for a really long time. and man, I've never called my "best friend" a bitch just because I had some drinks in me.

The punky girl is the worst girlfriend I've ever seen. Put some alcohal in her and she's even trying to hook up with Frat Boy.

May. 5th, 2004 11:53 am (UTC)
I got caught up too! I missed some in the middle there, but whatever.

Man, watching Frankie makes me want to get a lip ring, though.
May. 5th, 2004 12:54 pm (UTC)
I do admire the fact that she can pull off the single-lip-ring-off-to-the-side and look good while doing it, because that piercing looks pretty bad on most people.

I like the fact that Frankie gets to yell and bitch at stupid preppy people, because I would want to do the same thing, if I was her. I also really, really like her bangs. Again, most people couldn't pull that off.

But dude, she should really win Worst Girlfriend Ever award.
May. 5th, 2004 01:09 pm (UTC)
Yeah. As I said to someone above, I *want* to like Frankie, because everyone else is so preppie/fratty/college kidd-dy. And I don't envy her living in that house. And MAN I love her hair. But yeah, the shit she did with that kid Adam, and then that shit she pulled last night was just RIDICULOUS. She was totally taking advantage of that situation, and trying to get someone to be on her side about something, and that was just appalling.

It sucks that she doesn't want to be in Greece with those people. I wish that you really could say "look, I don't want to be here with you guys, just leave me alone and I'll leave you alone and it will be fine," but you just can't, that's not how life works, that's not how people work. Man, I'm so used to surrounding myself with people I like, though, you know? It must be hard to have to hang out with people who are NOTHING like you.
May. 5th, 2004 10:54 am (UTC)
fuck the token christians, virgins and homosexuals...

where are the stock "real world" angry black wannabe hip hop stars?

that was where the real drama was!

i haven't paid attention to a real world season this much since the new orleans one. i don't feel like i've missed much but i'm still enjoying myself.

for the first time ever, my rw object of affection has changed. originally it was robin (because i like big fake boobs); but now my love has shifted to jamie. no one has made being boring so attractive!
May. 5th, 2004 11:52 am (UTC)
I know, the Token Angry Young Black Man was often the one who got kicked out! Jacquese isn't angry at all, he's a Laid Back, Sadly Shaking His Head At His Stupid Drunk Roommates Black Man.

MAN I was going to say something about the Asian chick, but I couldn't remember her name because she's so boring. Man, she's young too, right? Because I hate the way she talks. She's always trying to make a big huge deal out of stuff.

OH MAN and she tries to talk like she's hip-hop or something! It's so embarrassing, I can't help but wince.
May. 5th, 2004 12:05 pm (UTC)
jamie may be boring/annoying/"too young".... but when she administered her own spanking with the whip she bought at the hustler store two episodes ago, somehow my opinion of her changed greatly!
May. 5th, 2004 12:18 pm (UTC)
Oh man, I missed that one! I missed a few weeks, and only got caught up on the last three.

When I referred to her speaking in an annoying way that was separate from the "f'real, yo" way, I meant like how she says stuff like "Adam could cause - major. Damage." Man, "major damage"? Are you serious, girlfriend?
May. 5th, 2004 12:48 pm (UTC)
So, all this being said, did you ever happen to catch that reality show on UP or WB or whatever, the one that had Ron Jeremy and Vanilla Ice and Erik Estrada? I don't know WHO the two young ladies were, but they were pretty much the worst drunks imaginable. But luckily, it meant Ron Jeremy just had to wait where he was for easy poon.

Also, Kate and I caught the part of some Real World in the last week where some drunk chick was giving some guy the "I used to like you, but then you acted like you were all hot shit" or something lecture. Man, that lecture ...
May. 5th, 2004 01:05 pm (UTC)
did you ever happen to catch that reality show on UP or WB or whatever, the one that had Ron Jeremy and Vanilla Ice and Erik Estrada?

The who in the what now? Good lord. No, no I did not.
May. 6th, 2004 04:59 am (UTC)
man oh man....so much to say and so little posting space. instead of commenting on one of the comments in this post, i'll try 'em all out.

1. frankie totally sucks balls! there is absolutely nothing appealing about her. her bangs are THE SUX, her attitude is bullshit, her girlfriend skills are repulsive, her 'phobia' makes me want to shit myself, and the fact that you can be in one of the most beautiful places in the world while whinig and complaining makes me fucking sick. FRANKIE SUCKS X 10!

2. washu is rarely mean, but when she is...fire breather. i swear.

3. julie from RW#1....HOT!!!

4. Oh, it does, because 1) they're all "goodlooking" by cheerleader/frat boy standards and 2) they're all dumb as a post. They ARE good-looking people....period. don't give me this cheerleader/fratboy crap. if you find them to be physically unattractive, then i would say you are pre-judging them as being stupid by your past experiences with people in frats/cheerleading squads. granted, they are all dumb as bricks (except J), but still.

5. kai's game show is limited, but still makes a point. i love the concept.

6. Yeah, I *want* to like Frankie, because I like her hair and her makeup, and she's not all . . . cheerleadery and "regular", like the other characters. nothing that frankie does is original. nothing she wears is original. her makeup is not original. her hair is not original. her piercings...right! not original. so what i don't understand is why you don't think she's 'regular'. i don't and don't want to like frankie because she is a total dumbass. example: cystic fibrosis + smoking = DUMBASS

7. I like the fact that Frankie gets to yell and bitch at stupid preppy people, because I would want to do the same thing, if I was her. well, i love the fact that 'stupid, preppy, regular' people talk shit about her all day long. she is a total drag, super fucking stupid, annoying as shit, and her eyebrows are terrible. sorry...this has become a total 'i hate frankie' deal. not what i intended, but she sucks...so it's ok.
8. the reality show with RJ and Erik Estrada....wasn't trishelle from RW Vegas in that? man, she gets uglier every time i see that bitch. before they left vegas, they should have tossed her ass in the lion cage at MGM.

one last thing. gina read this post last night and asked me, "are we regular people?". I said,.....um.....well, i'm not sure what i said since i was falling asleep, but i'm sure it ended with, "...i hate people".
May. 6th, 2004 06:00 am (UTC)
1. Right, I understand, I said that I didn't like her attitude, but I like her bangs. Matter of opinion.

4. Huh? They are good-looking by other people's standards, and I recognize and acknowlege this. But I personally am not interested in any of them. This is a separate issue from their idiocy. You don't think that different people have different ideas of what is physically attractive?

5. I think it's stupid. MOST people become blathering, annoying idiots when they have enough liquor in them. Big deal.

6. I didn't say she was "original", I said I liked it. Please excuse the term "regular", I'm SO sorry I said it. If I were having that conversation in person, I'd've elaborated, but I figured that you guys would know what I meant. The other characters are very straightforward and boring in their dress and style. I'm not saying that Frankie has invented this crazy new steez, but she IS different from all of the other roommates, and let's face it, from most people in general. She doesn't have to be a unique snowflake for this to be true. It's an issue of context, for me.

one last thing -- I hate people too! That's my point! In the context of watching people on a teevee show, if you don't have anything interesting or awesome going on to make you stand out, then you're not going to appeal to me very much! I am only saying all this shit in the context of the Real World television show. It would be inaccurate to assume that my statements were intended to make sense in relation to the REAL real world. I'm not going to judge people whom I meet in real life in the same way that I decide whom I'm rooting for on a television show.
May. 6th, 2004 07:28 am (UTC)
1. we're on common ground....well, except for the bangs. there are about 1 in a billion people that can pull off bangs. another matter of opinion.
4. yes, people do have different ideas of what is physically attractive. but i say that if you dropped "frat boy" into some 'hipster' clothing, dyed his hair blue, and pierced his eyelid, you'd be singing a different tune. same physical guy...just accessorized. an opinion of mine. attack me if you will.
5. people do become blathering idiots when they get real f'd up....you're right. but i find that women are that much more annoying because their drunken behavior is much more different than their sober behavior where, in general, guys are still like themselves but with the volume turned way up. for instance, on halloween when i kept telling people that they could get free punches in on my face...STUPID. but not much different than me in real life. only thing is, you punch me in the face when i'm sober, you better knock me the fuck out. if not you might ask?? well, your ass would be grass!
6. i knew i should have clarifed this statement. i never said that anyone contended frankie was 'orginal'. what i said was that a few posts here said she isn't 'regular'. what the fuck is regular? she's a regular ass-clown as far as i'm concerned. and as far as being different? let's see...brad cheated on his girlfriend. well, she cheated on her boyfriend. umm, she has gotten drunk and stupid a few times. so has robin, cameran, brad, and randy. she yells at others in the house for things she disagrees with. they do the same thing. i don't see what makes her so not 'regular' other than the fact that she has a facial piercing, shops at the thrift store, dyes her hair an outrageous color, and puts on makeup like she's trying out for a revival of mj's 'Thriller'. that's all on the outside. on the inside, she is exactly the same as the other clowns are....

in general, people aren't really all that different from each other. they just want to be.
May. 6th, 2004 07:35 am (UTC)
4. Isn't that still a matter of physical attraction? What a person wears, how they present themselves? I guess I count that as still being attractiveness based on aesthetics, even if a person is deliberately controlling their appearance.

I do think that one dude is cute, the one whose hair is in his eyes. The frat guy, though, is ugly. His eyes are buggy.

5. To my mind, this makes guys seem WORSE than girls, because at least girls can be cool when they're sober. I don't think I agree, though, because I don't like most girls when they're sober. As you know.

6. i don't see what makes her so not 'regular' other than the fact that she has a facial piercing, shops at the thrift store, dyes her hair an outrageous color, and puts on makeup like she's trying out for a revival of mj's 'Thriller'. that's all on the outside. on the inside, she is exactly the same as the other clowns are....

Yeah I know, I am agreeing with this statement! Her APPEARANCE makes me want to root for her, but her personality and actions are still horrible. And she's even worse than her roommates because she's a grumpy little nudge all the time. I prefer happy people. It's more of me just wanting SOMEBODY to root for besides Jacquese, that's all. At at first glance you'd think "ooh, this girl'll be different" but then it turns out she's not.
May. 6th, 2004 07:47 am (UTC)
you know what's real fucked up; Jacquese is the only one on that show i think i'd like to hang out with and he gets less airtime than everyone except Jamie. i suppose he just isn't exciting enough for the mtv audience......except when he's laughing at all the dumbasses he lives with.
May. 6th, 2004 07:50 am (UTC)
Yeah, the sane people never get much airtime. You have to be a psycho drama queen to get play on the Real World.
May. 6th, 2004 08:03 am (UTC)
4. i agree totally, because in my eyes, you can take a perfectly good looking girl & make her ugly by sticking a bunch of shit in her face. so the reverse must also hold true. um, probably. for me, anyway.

also, i can't believe the real world has generated this much fucking chatter. did i wake up in 1994 or something?!

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