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"i neva said you had to"

I was just at Wawa, getting some potato soup for lunch (it's terrible!  There are no goddamned potatoes in it!  It must have been the bottom of the pot).  As I futzed with my wallet in line, I sang quietly along to the song playing in the store, which was "My Life" by Billy Joel.  The man next to me said, "you're really dating yourself if you know the words to that song!"  Now, forgetting of course that music doesn't, like, disappear after it's been out for too long and that that statement makes no sense (like when hayce was amazed two Halloweens ago that I came as Steve Martin doing standup, hello, they did have videocameras back in the 70's*), does that statement still make sense?  Did I really just "date" myself?  Am I that old that people can say in a joking fashion Oh man you are really dating yourself there? Also, isn't Billy Joel timeless?  I don't know, maybe he thought  I was a spritely young maiden of nineteen and he was surprised I was kicking it to Billy Joel.

Also, too late I thought to make an offhand remark involving Bosom Buddies

*Is this the correct punctuation?  Twice recently I've seen people ridicule the use of an apostrophe when referring to a decade, but I specifically remember learning in school that that is the correct punctuation.  No it isn't possessive, but "70" isn't a real word, so it should get an '.  Anybody know one way or the other?

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swolfe
Sep. 29th, 2004 11:20 am (UTC)
it seems like, if anything, it should be '70s. but that's ugly. and i like how 70's looks :)

also,
swolfe
Sep. 29th, 2004 11:27 am (UTC)
apostrophe (') This punctuation mark has two main functions: First, it often shows possession: Dan Lindler's appointment. And second, it often marks the omission of letters in contractions and other words or numbers in years and decades: he'll, won't, finger lickin' good, the class of '68, the '90s.

Apostrophes never make a word plural, but they may be used to mark the plural of single letters and abbreviations with internal punctuation: Dot your i's. She got straights A's on her report card, M.A.'s Ph.D.'s. Don't use it in forming plurals of decades: the '70s, the 1980s, not '70's, the 1980's.
littlewashu
Sep. 29th, 2004 11:33 am (UTC)
Ah ha, so it's the exception to the exception! Thanks for doing the research. That sucks, '70s looks like ass.
littlewashu
Sep. 29th, 2004 11:32 am (UTC)
I agree, part of it is that I think 70s looks weird, and 70's looks better.

So are you saying that you don't know for sure, or are you saying that it is indeed 70s? The comic is lovely but unhelpful, as this instance would be an exception to the rule, in that 70 is a number, not a word.
turnip
Sep. 29th, 2004 12:13 pm (UTC)
that man can go into a closet and SUCK EGGS.
I sure hope that doesn't mean you're 'dating yourself.'
I've got a 2-disc set of Billy Joel at home, so I must be married to myself at this point.


no no, fuck that, it just means you're super cool.
thalamic
Sep. 29th, 2004 11:39 am (UTC)
50s v 50's v '50s v '50's
There’s no requirement for the apostrophe before the “S” in decade names like 50s and 60s, since there are no omitted letters, though it’s also acceptable to include one. The term may be written “’50s” since “19” is being omitted, but “50s” is fine too. Writers who wish to have their references to decades clearly understood in the twenty-first century would be well advised not to omit the first two digits.

Note that you may have to turn off “smart quotes” in your word processor to get a leading apostrophe like the one in “’50s” to curl correctly unless you know how to type the character directly. Or you can just type two and delete the first one.


—from "Common Errors in English"
zombiepatrick
Sep. 29th, 2004 12:12 pm (UTC)
Also, for alomost the entirety of your post I thought that guy was commenting on your relationship status.
turnip
Sep. 29th, 2004 12:16 pm (UTC)
oh man, so did I.

I thought the guy meant, "you listen to Billy Joel? good luck finding a date."

and I got mad.
littlewashu
Sep. 29th, 2004 12:20 pm (UTC)
Oh! Haha, yeah, no. I guess he was just trying to, you know, make small talk about how that's an old song or something. I can't help people who make ridiculous attempts at small talk, though, I mean, I actually really like making small talk with strangers and it's really not that hard to say something that makes sense.

Also, interstate high five on the Tom Hanks icon!
littlewashu
Sep. 29th, 2004 12:22 pm (UTC)
also?
Oh! Haha, yeah, sorry. I'm glad you figured it out.
emalinebeachbum
Sep. 29th, 2004 12:14 pm (UTC)
Man, eff that guy.

He is obviously uncultured. Most people know Billy Joel lyrics. I have all 3 volumes of his greatest hits. I also know alot of Frank Sinatra lyrics. That doesn't mean I'm old enough to be a grandmother.

That dude needs to get with the program.

littlewashu
Sep. 29th, 2004 12:23 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think he was just trying to make conversation. It didn't really work.
rhino777
Sep. 29th, 2004 12:19 pm (UTC)
Bosom Buddies

Awww man...I remeber watching that when I couldn't understand half the jokes...
littlewashu
Sep. 29th, 2004 12:21 pm (UTC)
Man, true. That, along with All In the Family and Threes Company. I never had ANY idea what was going on, I just watched those shows because my mom said they were "trash".
king_kai
Sep. 29th, 2004 02:06 pm (UTC)
i thought i had a bunch to say on the billy joel subject, but i don't. i can't decide if i like him or not. i like some of his music, but he is also a bit of a pompous toolbox. to me, though, he screams eighties. the billy joel i am familiar with, i became familiar with because my parents listened to it. maybe, like me, this guy just associates billy joel with old people. i mean, seriously, billy joel is old people music, isn't it? if i saw a 14 year old kid singing "my life" i'd be like, "da fug?"

in general, i think familiarity with particular pop singles can definitely be dating, though. for instance, if i saw a guy singing along in wawa to "every rose has it's thorn," i would have a pretty good idea of how old he was.
king_kai
Sep. 29th, 2004 02:13 pm (UTC)
you're ass is out
every rose has it is thorn. you like how i brought in the 'postrophe topic? without even trying. i am good.
littlewashu
Sep. 29th, 2004 02:17 pm (UTC)
I had thought you liked Billy Joel because you and J sat up one night and did nothing but listen to Billy Joel(?). 'Course, I also remember that story involving wine and a record player, and that is boviously Maura's story, not yours, so my memory is somewhat flawed.

I like Billy Joel, but when I say "I like Billy Joel" I mean "I like Billy Joel's music, particularly his Greatest Hits". It doesn't really bother me that he's a bad driver or whatever. Shit, there was a Billy Joel song on my kohmusic CD that never got made, wasn't there? "Italian Restaurant."
littlewashu
Sep. 29th, 2004 02:20 pm (UTC)
I'm not done.
... or as I like to call it, "Brender and Eddie." Is that what I like to call it? "Bottle of Red"? What did I like to call it?

Billy Joel is good because you can sing along with him like nobody's business. And also because, as you said, it reminds us of our parents.
littlewashu
Sep. 29th, 2004 02:25 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not done.
"Brenderan", it should be "Brenderan Eddie." I mean, that's not what I used to think, I just made that up just now.

Also, my on-the-fly typing/composing skills have taken a serious nose-dive since . . . some time. I suck, and I keep correcting comments, as I'm sure you've noticed.
counterfeitfake
Sep. 29th, 2004 02:30 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not done.
You're really commenting yourself.
littlewashu
Sep. 29th, 2004 02:39 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm not done.
Yeah, I know! This makes my statement doubly true, because 1) it's something that needs correcting and 2) boviously I have noticed the mistakes I am making, if I'm correcting them.

But good lookin' out.
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