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Mar. 26th, 2003

Hey, here's a question to which I could probably find an answer by doing a little research [lookin' for a re] but would prefer to just ask you folks: you know how girls these days have teeny tiny nose piercings? Itsy bitsy little dots that you can almost not even see? I think those are fly. Would it be possible to get my nose pierced to JUST that size? Or is that too small, and too likely to close up? My reference here is when I got my ears pierced in third grade (by my doctor, no less), and they put posts in there that were bigger than normal earrings, just for the beginning (SIX MONTHS, because I went to a doctor I kept my original pair in for SIX MONTHS, my mom is so non-risk-taking it's adorable (now)), so that they wouldn't close up later.

So . . . yeah. Long parenenthesized story short, can I get it pierced with just a tiny little dot? Or do I have to get it pierced regularly, and then put a teeny post in there in three or six months? Anybody? Tami?


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Mar. 26th, 2003 08:50 am (UTC)
Gertrude wants the same thing! But she complains that all piercing places make you put in a ring first.
Mar. 26th, 2003 09:18 am (UTC)
man, find yourself the sketchiest fucking bodymod shoppe around. they'll do it for you. that's my experience, anyway. everywhere else give you that "you need an oversized ring for it to heal" stuff.

it would be fly on you, yes.
Mar. 26th, 2003 10:21 am (UTC)
Ah but see, I'm a wuss, and would not want to take any chances with my nose (it's really cute). So I would probably get a ring for a while. I'd survive, and hell, maybe I'd even like it.

T'anks for thinking it would look good!
Mar. 26th, 2003 11:07 am (UTC)
I think you could even like it. You do have a cute nose, so I think either would look good.
Mar. 26th, 2003 09:28 am (UTC)
here is the thing about getting a stud when your nose is first pierced. Your nose is gonna swell, and one of two things will happen:

a. the stud gets pushed out and the hole closes and you try to put it back in but just end up bleeding.

2. the swelling causes it to get pinched and maybe infected, this hurts a lot.

There is a reason reputable piercers will only pierce you with a hoop, but you can get it done to a small gauge, and change it in a few weeks to a month if it heals well, which it will if you take good care of it.
Mar. 26th, 2003 10:20 am (UTC)
Thank you for your advice!

I was a little unclear in my post, but the reality is this: like my mom before me, I, too, am a non-risk-taker! So I was more asking "what is standard and safe", not "what is possible." So if I do do it, I will probably do as you suggest, get a hoop in a small gauge, and then when it is healed change to a teeny thing.

Thanks, Artie!

P.S. My phone was off both times that you/Maggie called. But I totally would have been up for it either time. What diner did you go to? Starview?
Mar. 26th, 2003 09:00 pm (UTC)
starview indeed.
and any time you need piercing advice feel free to ask. I kinda know a lot about it, and if i dont know, I know who to ask. And yeah if you get it done by a profesional there is little to no danger involved.
Mar. 26th, 2003 09:48 am (UTC)
Though it's a lot BETTER if you do it with a hoop... I don't think it's absolutley necessary. I know a few people who got pieced with a stud and never had any problems.

My first nose piercing was/is an 18 gauge, which is a TEENY TINY little hole. Not much bigger than your normal earring. My second nose piercing is a 16 gauge, and I personally think that looks better, but that's on me. Both of my nose piercings were really easy to take care of and never ever caused me any problems, even when i got a terrible cold the day after getting the first piercing done and was blowing my nose the whole time.

So if you went to a decent place (like infinate), and you take really good care of it, I think you wouldn't have much of a problem just going straight to the stud. They'll give you enough room with the screw (which is on the back of nose studs) that it can still be moved around.
Mar. 26th, 2003 10:24 am (UTC)
Thank you for your advice! I'm quite a wuss (and quite the Direction Follower) so I can see myself getting the hoop anyway, and then just changing to what I wanted when it healed. If I decide to do it, I will of course be asking you for a recommendation of where to go.

Hmm, at first I was thinking of my parents' reaction, but now I'm thinking about work . . . oy. I hate that I work at The Most Boring Company Ever.
Mar. 26th, 2003 10:03 am (UTC)
i haven't read the rest of the comments because i have to go to lunch NOW but in my experience: they pierced my nose with a hoop but i wrenched it out immediately in the mall parking lot (blood. and tears. and probably sweat.), went in and bought a stud. the thing is, i know in my experience that i tried a teeny tiny one at first, and yeah, my nose swelled all up and i got super paranoid that it would grow over, and that's totally gross. so i had a small-but-normal-sized little sparkly in there for a couple months. right now, though, it's the teeny tiny dot. a pink one. superfly.
Mar. 26th, 2003 10:25 am (UTC)
Super duper fly.
Mar. 26th, 2003 10:38 am (UTC)
Contrary to what a lot of people are saying up there, the way I understand it (from reading and from what my piercers have told me) you need to be pierced for what you'll be wearing. If you're pierced with a slightly rounded needle (for a hoop) you should wear a hoop. A straight needle for a stud. End of story. With the nose, it's less of a big deal because you're dealing with pretty flexible material, but it's still a good idea.

As for studs, most reputable places (again, in my experience) have no problem piercing with a stud. What you'll get is a "nose screw" and is the best kind of jewelry to wear in the nose, in my humble opinion. It's made like a straightpin (only slightly less pointy) and the guy MEASURED MY NOSTRIL to see how deep the screw-bend should be. Because he wasn't a dummy, he bent the stud a little longer than the width of my nostril wall to accommodate for swelling and said, "once all the swelling has gone down, if you find this is too loose, come in and we'll rebend it for you." By the way, mine is a little loose, but I'm used to it so I don't mind. It never sticks out in that horrible way that badly pierced nose studs do, and the inside part of the screw never hangs below my nostril, so I figure I'm aces.

I got pierced with the smallest one they'd use for me. I'm afraid I can't remember the gauge, but I'll post a pic for you. It's pretty tiny. I had ZERO problems with infection or anything, my nose barely swelled if at all, it looked like it'd been in for years just after it was done, and it causes me no trouble. I do have a "dress" piercing to put in if I want to be flashy. It's a much smaller post, though, and it makes me uncomfortable because it's not my regular piercing. I don't even notice that this one is in.

Since you've never actually met me, I'll give you a photo for reference (mind you, I just got up and haven't washed my face, so I'm gross). BOTH of my recent employers (at the bookstore and the tutoring place) didn't notice the piercing until I pointed it out to them. It's subtle (which is what I wanted).

Another good frame of reference (though, a cam shot, so things are blurry).

Hope that's helpful, Washu!
Mar. 26th, 2003 10:47 am (UTC)
Re: Rock.
Hmm! Very interesting that you have almost the exact opposite thing to say. I guess I'll just have to go to a good place, and do whatever they tell me to do.
Mar. 26th, 2003 10:52 am (UTC)
Re: Rock.
I'm not trying to be contrary, I swear. That's just what my piercer said, and also what I'd read up on prior to piercing (I'm seriously compulsive about making sure I get THE BEST POSSIBLE JOB). I've read good things about Infinte in PA. According to their website, they pierce with a screw or ring, depending on what you want. I would definitely recommend checking out this page to read up. Right there in black and white it says what you want (basically, nostril screws are a great way to go if you want a discreet piercing).
Mar. 26th, 2003 10:57 am (UTC)
Re: Rock.
Infinite is the bomb. They did my septum and my labret, and I buy new jewelry there all the time. Tami just got her second nose piercing there. We're both getting pierced there again soon. They're super professional and friendly and helpful, and they carry really freaking amazing quality jewelry. Washu, I would ask them what to do, and do exactly what they say. They're the best.
Mar. 26th, 2003 11:04 am (UTC)
Re: Rock.
Manning, will you hold my hand?
Mar. 26th, 2003 11:09 am (UTC)
Re: Rock.
Yes. And hey, you know that's right around the corner from my apartment, right? Yeah, I bet you knew that.

Ooh, another neat thing about Infinite is that they get all kinds of customers: big ol' freaks like me, and highschool girls getting their bellybuttons done. They won't make you feel like a poser, or treat you like you're stupid or anything. And there's this really hot girl that works there.
Mar. 26th, 2003 11:15 am (UTC)
Re: Rock.
Taking people with you is the best/most fun way to go. When I got my snug pierced in Holland, I had, like, five girls with me in the shop (one to hold my hand, the others to document the whole thing on film). I had two with me when I got my nose pierced. Hand holding is good. The nostril really doesn't hurt too badly at all and it goes away very quickly. It's super fast. My eyes watered a little but that's it.
Mar. 26th, 2003 01:40 pm (UTC)
Re: Rock.
Hey lady, pardon my ig-no-rance but what the hell is a 'snug'?
Mar. 26th, 2003 01:45 pm (UTC)
Re: Rock.
Aw, dude, nevermind. I just went and looked it up and it sure as hell ain't slang for pussy.

Har har no really I didn't know ... but now I know what to call that particular piercing. I've seen it before but just figured there was no better way to describe an ear piercing than "ear piercing".
Mar. 26th, 2003 06:25 pm (UTC)
Re: Rock.
Did you see the Ear Chart that Infinite has? I have it linked on my site because both "anti-helix" and "snug" are weird names and no one knows what I'm talking about. It's hard to describe, though, without being able to pinch that whole bunch of cartilage and saying, "THIS PART HERE." It's a sizable amount of flesh to go through and was particularly painful. Also, mine never really healed, so I had to take it out (sad sad sad). This is what it looked like, though. I got it on the last day of my most recent trip to the Netherlands.
Mar. 26th, 2003 11:13 am (UTC)
Re: Rock.
If I'm ever there again, and if I ever decide to get something else pierced, I'll go to Infinite and call you up to hold my hand. It's decided.
Mar. 26th, 2003 11:18 am (UTC)
Re: Rock.
Yeah! You got it.
Mar. 26th, 2003 01:07 pm (UTC)
Re: Rock.
hell yeah, that's where i had my clitoris pierced.
Mar. 26th, 2003 11:03 am (UTC)
Re: Rock.
I was reading that Infinite page while you were typing your comment, if you can believe that.

And yeah, they say that you can get it done with a screw, so that's probably what I'll do. If I do it.
Mar. 26th, 2003 11:17 am (UTC)
Re: Rock.

Also, if it helps your decision any, I haven't regretted mine for one second and I love it to pieces. I get compliments on it a lot, and (like I mentioned) it's really unobtrusive and hasn't stopped me from getting hired anywhere. If you choose to remove it, the hole closes up and just looks like another nose-pore and no one will be the wiser. Really. I say go for it, but that's because I'm a big fan of nose piercings in general. Also, I think it'd look rad on you (from the pictures I've seen, at least). You could always photoshop a picture to see!
Mar. 26th, 2003 01:30 pm (UTC)
Let's both go get nose piercings at the same time.
Mar. 26th, 2003 01:37 pm (UTC)
If that's really what you want, Jon, then sure, I'm all for it. But I don't want to pressure you into anything.

You can hold my other hand.
Mar. 26th, 2003 01:50 pm (UTC)
I'm gonna hold the piercer's hand, and maybe kick him inna throat!
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