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Bruce and I went to check out that big hole in the ground.  On the drive back he asked who I was voting for.  I hesitated, because I don't like talking about politics or religion with Bruce, and he said "have you decided yet?" and I just hooted.  I decided YEARS ago, I told him.

And of course he's voting for Bush, and the reason that he gave, I kid you not, is that Bush is a good leader.  He doesn't think that Kerry will make a good leader, because he "changes his mind."  It was almost mind-boggling; I'd heard Bush himself tell me that that's why I should vote for him, but I had never heard a human being in real life say such a thing.

Now I'm all agitated and I can't calm down.  I start to freak out when I think about the possibility that he'll get re-elected.  I start to freak out when I think about how so many people are buying his shit.  I should have asked him if he watched any of the debates.  I tried to be reticent but it's so hard, it's so so hard because I am filled with such hatred and bile for this man (Bush, not my boss) and it just boggles my mind that anyone thinks of him as an intelligent and capable human being.  I actually said that I thought that Bush was kind of a total idiot.  "You don't think he's an idiot?" I asked.  I didn't mean to but I couldn't help it.

I'm really upset and agitated now.  I know I said that already.  I have to stop thinking about this.

You know, I am so freaked out about this right now that I seriously think that if Bush wins the election I'm going to have a panic attack.  I never cared about politics before!  I guess I don't think of this as "politics" anymore, though.  This is my life and my country and it's getting fucked up.  Bush being elected forces me to acknowledge all the people out there who think that he is smart and capable and filled with good ideas.  Fuck the environment.  Fuck what the world thinks of us.  Fuck contraception.  Fuck the gays.  Fuck poor people, if they are poor then it is their own fault and they did something wrong.  Praise Jesus.  Right?  Right? 

God I am totally freaking out.


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Oct. 18th, 2004 01:55 pm (UTC)
With due respect to your (and more than a few others') paralyzing terror about the impending apocalypse brought about by Bush's reelection, I think that when the antichrist actually comes to power, it will be someone who's a bit smarter than G.W..

I'm not defending him or his policies, mind you; I'm just saying that even if he did have a crippling, horrific agenda for subverting the entire United States, he'd have to work really, really hard to get it all implemented in any permanent fashion in four years.
Oct. 18th, 2004 02:13 pm (UTC)
I don't remember saying that I thought the world was going to end.

But if reelected, he will appoint judges -- fucking crazy religious judges -- who will be there long after he is gone. He already created a fucking ridiculous deficit that will be around long after YOU AND I are gone. He is ruining international relationships that will take years to repair. If he had his way, the kids in this country would be even MORE ignorant in the ways of sex than they are now, and their unplanned children will live longer than us. He is fucking the environment in ways that will have repercussions for decades.

But the thing that would bother me most, if he were reelected, would be the fact that there are more Americans who either don't believe that what he's doing is wrong, or that these things are not more important than "sticking with a decision" (i.e. an inability to admit you've made a mistake), than there are Americans like me.
Oct. 18th, 2004 02:37 pm (UTC)
You're talking about things that every president who's been in office since 1960 has done. Every president elects judges who reflect his views. Who was the last president who started paying back the national deficit?

Don't get me wrong, if he had his way, quite a bit of what you've said would come to pass -- but you say it in a way that suggests we've dropped the system of checks and balances*. The system's in place largely so one man (or administration) can't impose his views on the country -- without cooperation. The administration's taken crazy action before -- but not without complicity from members of the other parties. I think it's safe to say that with recent events, the evaluation of future courses of action will be under closer scrutiny, no matter which candidate becomes elected.

I do, completely, understand what you're saying about the fear you feel when you see people blindly supporting Bush; I feel the same way, but I'm also concerned when I see people moving in the opposite direction, just as blindly. I am consistently amazed at the number of people who can correctly understand, for instance, that the T-Shirt with the Osama Bin Laden joke on it is tacky and beneath them, and yet find the George W. shirt a hoot. The demonization of a high-grade Texan nutball just strikes me as unhelpful to a proper understanding of the issues.

*"But that's his PLAN!" screams the morally-outraged upper-class college student.
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Oct. 18th, 2004 02:55 pm (UTC)
He already created a fucking ridiculous deficit that will be around long after YOU AND I are gone

Whoa, he has? I thought deficit was the name for this year's budget, and debt was what all we've incurred period.

Anyway, what are the numbers?
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Oct. 18th, 2004 02:30 pm (UTC)
Man, you mean he's caused all this catastrophic grief and epic calamity and he hasn't even really been trying?

Oct. 18th, 2004 02:44 pm (UTC)
I do recall him not even breaking a sweat as he swept the weak democrats -- who were fighting valiantly against him -- out of the room, calling for the heads of every man, woman and child in Iraq on a platter.
What are you, ludickid? - calamityjon - Oct. 18th, 2004 02:57 pm (UTC) - Expand
Oct. 18th, 2004 07:05 pm (UTC)
Norm, he's done enough in four years to neatly sweep away things that I felt defined this country, or at least call them into question, (civil liberties being the handiest example) that I'm pretty sure he could finish us off in another two. Almost every day I sit and read the news and see yet another bullshit law passed, another well-repected law questioned, more basic American beliefs ridiculed and called UnAmerican. I can't tell you how many times I've actually, physically, no joke, had my jaw drop open unbeknownst to me, in response to the work of the current administration. And maybe I've read a little too much Margaret Atwood, but frankly, I feel we're MAYBE two steps away from Gilead, and that makes me want to puke on the shoes of anyone who feels he's the right choice for this country.

He's done quite enough subverting, even if he did it without a goddamn plan. Well-intentioned evil is still evil.
Oct. 18th, 2004 01:56 pm (UTC)
I know it's selfish, but I try not to think about that possibility. I don't have enough money to give to the democratic party (and I don't really want to, anyway) or moveon or something, so all I can really do is vote and try to brainwash others against Bush.

Though, I was so sure Gore would win last one that I felt the same way I do now. hmm.

dammit, now I'm angry.
Oct. 18th, 2004 02:58 pm (UTC)
I've been careful not to talk politics around people who disagree with me, which is retarded of me! But it's because I feel like it's very possible that I will just explode if I was in a face-to-face conversation with someone who was actually voting for Bush because they think he would make a good president. Luckily, with where I live and the people I hang out with, I don't find much opposition to my views. I think there is a Bush-guy in my office, but he's the only one I know. Ugh, and he lives in Pennsylvania. And he's raising kids. And drives an SUV.
Oct. 18th, 2004 03:44 pm (UTC)
I don't think that's retarded, T.
When that Iraqi cabbie had me trapped, talking about how Bush is a good leader, and causing me to sweat and hyperventilate, I tried to tell myself that here was a chance for me to talk to someone who didn't think like I did and to hear why, dear GAWD, WHY they would vote for someone who wants to strip Americans of their civil rights, someone who wants to bully the world in the name of democracy (when he really means capitalism), someone who has ruined my pride in being an American... (I'll stop now before I write a dissertation)

That guy's argument for voting for Bush was that Bush was a strong leader who will protect us from terrorists and Kerry is not. End of story.

Telling him my point of view, in the most diplomatic way possible, only led to cold silence between us.

We're not going to convince people who are as stubborn and pig-headed as the pResident himself, to see what we see in Junior.
Oct. 18th, 2004 04:10 pm (UTC)
Re: I don't think that's retarded, T.
Or those who have had their hands scarred by Muslim extremists, methinks. Everybody's got their pet issues.
sometimes I'm too subtle - tawdryjones - Oct. 18th, 2004 05:46 pm (UTC) - Expand
Oct. 18th, 2004 08:29 pm (UTC)
I'm so scared!
Oct. 18th, 2004 08:38 pm (UTC)
I hear you 100%, and am taking deep breaths because I sort of caught your freakout. The whole idea that maybe a majority of people really thinks that differently from you? Even though, you know, you've spent a lot of time figuring out what you believe and why? That is so scary.

Also, I stay away from political debate. The reason isn't apathy- what's that REM lyric?- it's that I haven't had a single discussion about Bush that hasn't turned into opinion vs. opinion. They're never discussions! They're just this form of rhetoric that everybody seems to have learned, which never goes anywhere.

The whole situation makes me feel very disillusioned and lonely- I guess lonely because it seems like there are two groups: people who agree with you, and people who don't wanna listen. What if most people just don't want to listen?
Oct. 19th, 2004 08:46 am (UTC)
Q: What if most people just don't want to listen?

Oct. 19th, 2004 07:46 am (UTC)
I know exactly how you feel, and it's TOTALLY justified.
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